I just picked up a RR-Net and RR from Protovision. I got the RR working just fine, but when I hook the RRNET to the RR, Guruterm and Warpcopy tell me it can't find it (it is hooked up correctly and gets a link light). I tried hooking it up straight to my MMC64 card but I get the same results. Is there a step I'm missing here?

hmmm. sounds strange indeed. maybe you're out of luck and got a defective rr-net...?! (hope not)

GuruTerm should be working fine with both TFR 0.6 ROM and Cyberpunx 3.8. Although a few people have had problems.

If these ROMs fail, I'd suggest you got a faulty RR-net

Step 1: Connect RR+RR-Net directly to you c64. Do NOT try to hook it up through the MMC64 until you've verified that it works on it's own.
Step 2: Flash TFR onto your RR.
Step 3: Start codenet from TFR by pressing F6
Step 4: From your PC, ping the C64 and make sure that succeeds without packet loss.

If all is well at this point, you can continue and try hooking it up to the MMC. If you were NOT successful in the test above, try another C64 and/or another Power Supply before considering either unit defective.

Now, I don't know about you networking skills, so do you mind telling us how you configured all the network stuff? (IP on TFR, Windows/linux, switched network or crossed network cable.. stuff like that)

When RR-Net is connected to RR and RR connected to MMC64, you cannot load GuruTerm or WarpCopyClient from the MMC and expect it to work. You have to load that from floppy.
If GuruTerm does not detect you RR-Net when loaded off a floppy, I'd say you have some hardware problem. But like I said, not neccesarily a faulty RR-Net.

oh.. and check out the howtos and whatnots in the Documentation section of this forum.

Hope I didn't confuse you too much

I tried using the TFR rom on the RR but it had some interesting results. Like, crashing, locking up, not loading, etc I'm not sure if it's supposed to work on an NTSC 128D or not.



I tried this both on a C64C and a 128D - got the same results.



I'm a Systems Admin for a large corporation, so I'm sure I got it networked right It's hooked via straight Cat5 to a switch. I tried loading Guruterm and WarpCopy off a standard 41 floppy which is when I got that error that it's not found regardless if it's hooked to a RR or MMC. I'll give TFR ROM another shot.

The RR cart is picky. According to Jens from Individual Computers there is a little ground noise in the C128 and C128d's which is not in the C64 & C64c's. That is why sometimes the RR cart will not in the C128's

Hey, you're on a NTSC machine so you gotta make sure you're using a NTSC ROM. Currently I don't think there's a NTSC version of TFR ROM ( ) but Cyberpunx 3.8 NTSC ROM should work.

??!? you won't need any ROM at all. The RR-Net should work fine even if the RR is in Flash-Mode - that's what I do when testing things out or programming. So set your RR in Flashmode and try out Guruterm or some other software checking/ using the RR-Net...
If you know hot to program in asembler you might want to write a little presence check routine by yourself something like:



this chekcs for presence of the cs8900a chip...

I don't know about NTSC and TFR, but I'd suspect that only the Disk routines would cause trouble. Can anyone verify this?

Edit: TFR's idle loop runs at $DExx btw, which of course will make it crash if the chip select/bank switching thing is fuxx0red (i.e. bad clock). This is actually a good thing, as you can use this as an indicator of wheter or not it "ought to" work on your machine.



Well, you never know with c64 people so I had to ask

As an NTSC user, don't you mean 128DCR rather than 128D? The DCR is with a metal casing and the D is 100% plastic. The DCR should work with RR+RR-Net according to what I hear from people, but as someone else suggested, some of the D models and the flat 128s have trouble.

Yep, it's a DCR, but most of us over here call it a "D".

I tried putting the RR in flash mode and running the RRNet on my C64C - same thing when I fire up Guru or Warpcopy - Unable to find RRNet. I sent an email to Protovision requesting an exchange. Let's see how this works out. I also see it looks like I picked up the last one because now it says "out of stock" :/

True, no ROM needed to use the RR-net of course. I was refering to the loading and lockup problem. Sorry for being all fuzzed up

Question is whether the RR-net or RR cart is broken... or both?

I am not sure about Protovision but I am out of stock. Jens from Individual Computers has to make a production run. Everything now has to be RoHS.

*bump*

Any light shed on this issue yet?

It's sent back to Jens at this point, I'm waiting for an answer from him to see what next.