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Splitting it up for Users and Developers?
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Author:  RaveGuru [ Fri Jan 11, 2008 10:04 am ]
Post subject:  Splitting it up for Users and Developers?
Lately there's been some discussion "behind the scenes" about splitting up Retrohackers in distinctive Users and Developers sections. The reason being that many Users (non-developers) come here looking for help and support but might feel hesistant to ask questions and gets scared off due to the strong Developer nature of this forum.

Until now I've been trying to apply "organic" means of evolving this forum, meaning changes come slowly and little by little. If we decide to do this, it would perhaps be as simple as putting one single combined "User support" section in there to begin with.

Before going any further I'd like to get the opinions from both you Users and Developers....... :idea:
Author:  Stinky [ Fri Jan 11, 2008 11:36 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Splitting it up for Users and Developers?
RaveGuru wrote:
Before going any further I'd like to get the opinions from both you Users and Developers....... :idea:


No harm having a help section, but there is Lemon...
Author:  Devia [ Fri Jan 11, 2008 1:10 pm ]
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Probably a good idea, but it is likely to require more "admin" work, moving stuff around. Just take a look at the "DreamLoad MMC64" thread.. it's a big mish-mash of dev and user stuff.. But ok, I guess you'd need a relatively complete piece of software to avoid use related questions in a dev thread. There'll always be "grey" areas, i guess.. but a user section would help, well.. the users ;-)

Stinky wrote:
No harm having a help section, but there is Lemon...

I'd prefer asking my questions here first, since the people answering don't talk as much shit... I'd rather have NO answer, than a useless one... then I can always provide the answer myself, if I find it ;-)

..I'm not saying Lemon is completely full of shit, tho ;-)
Author:  FMan [ Sat Jan 12, 2008 8:26 pm ]
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Yeah, I think we absolutely need user areas. My original idea was User Forum, which would not be only limited to support matters, but open to all kinds of talk about using the various hardware.

Maybe that and a support forum for interaction between developers and users, where developers can tell users about their plans and users can post requests and give feedback on said plans and released stuffs?
Author:  zap [ Sat Jan 12, 2008 11:41 pm ]
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FMan wrote:
Yeah, I think we absolutely need user areas. My original idea was User Forum, which would not be only limited to support matters, but open to all kinds of talk about using the various hardware.

Maybe that and a support forum for interaction between developers and users, where developers can tell users about their plans and users can post requests and give feedback on said plans and released stuffs?


Sounds logical to me "a user" as might keep the developers threads cleaner with less crosstalk more on the subject.

will get more users in here too nothing wrong with a bit of commodore chit chat as long as we keep it less Preditorial than lemon boy some get hot under the collar on there sometimes if you want to post a thread on a hotly debatable subject just turns in a flaming session.
more friendly in here. :)

Have Fun Shane
Author:  Borat [ Sun Jan 13, 2008 1:08 am ]
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If you are going to create separate sections, I think you should still allow Users read access to the Development section. Everyone likes to know what's going on and denying write access means we can discuss matters in the Users section.

Also... thank you for asking us and not just doing it :wink:
Author:  FMan [ Sun Feb 03, 2008 6:43 pm ]
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Absolutely. I don't think limiting access was ever even proposed. So, umm, Raveguru! Have you made a decision as to how to proceed?

Oh, and public discussion was my suggestion, so you're welcome. 8)
Author:  RaveGuru [ Sun Feb 03, 2008 10:22 pm ]
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Oh yes, I've been thinking. I have so many ideas and so little time :roll:

Right now I'm thinking about (as FMan suggested at some point) to open up just one User section where all kinds of questions can be made. Probably no need to split that up into different categories as well, or what do you think?

About write access, I was planing to not restrict anyone write access, or would that be bad perhaps? Until now not too many "user questions" have been flooding the forum. Hopefully a "User" section will be sufficiently self explaining ... or? :P


Borat wrote:
Also... thank you for asking us and not just doing it

Well, my position is that I'm simply providing the tools for you to construct with. Without you guys this website would be just another dead and pointless forum in cyber space. So I trust it would be unwise to not consult its engineers with the building plans.

Damn! I should run for president :)
Author:  SounDemoN [ Sun Feb 03, 2008 10:27 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Splitting it up for Users and Developers?
RaveGuru wrote:
Lately there's been some discussion "behind the scenes" about splitting up Retrohackers in distinctive Users and Developers sections. The reason being that many Users (non-developers) come here looking for help and support but might feel hesistant to ask questions and gets scared off due to the strong Developer nature of this forum.

Until now I've been trying to apply "organic" means of evolving this forum, meaning changes come slowly and little by little. If we decide to do this, it would perhaps be as simple as putting one single combined "User support" section in there to begin with.

Before going any further I'd like to get the opinions from both you Users and Developers....... :idea:


How would this split be achieved?

One idea would be to split up the forum into two, a "user forum" and a "developer forum". But maybe this is what you mean with a "section"? Separate sites would probably be a bad thing, since it'd make checking both more inconvenient...
Author:  RaveGuru [ Mon Feb 04, 2008 12:02 pm ]
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Exactly. What I meant was adding just another Forum "Section" (it's referred to as "Cathegory" and "Forum" in phpBB). So between the "Ground Zero" and "Development" cathegories there would be a "Users" cathegory with just one "forum" named "Users questions & support" or something like that.
Author:  RaveGuru [ Mon Feb 04, 2008 4:33 pm ]
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By the way, I will probably drop the "Cross development" forum since it's not being used much and topics regarding that can go under the "General" forum.
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